Two Witness of Rev. 11 and Recovery of the Lost Ark | A Watcher Original

 Post subject: The Two witnesses of Rev. 11 & recovery of the lost Ark.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:10 pm
By: Newton2012 [David Flynn]

The subject of the identity of the two witnesses of Revelation 11 is pertinent in the question of the return of the Ark of the Covenant to the future temple of Jerusalem. A good study in favor of Moses as one of the two is here:

If the Ark of the Covenant was discovered at Mt. Nebo (nebo in Hebrew, lit. “a prophet”)… who would be worthy to recover it? How about Moses himself?

No other person in the bible is more clearly associated with the Ark of the Covenant than the prophet Moses. The Ark was built according to the pattern given to him by God on Mt. Sinai and placed within it the tablets of the law written in God’s hand. The scripture suggests:

“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.” Malachi 3:1
Although this prophecy is completed in Jesus Christ and John the baptist, the second coming of Christ focuses of His return and reign in the temple for 1,000 years.

“Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the statutes and judgments. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD”: Malachi 4:4,5

The two witnesses were present at the mount of Jesus’ transfiguration:

“And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.”
Mark 9:4

This identification of Moses as one of the two witnesses mentioned in Rev. 11 is also found in the Old Testament:

“Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth”. Zechariah 4:14

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people…And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, Isaiah 11:11–12 18:3Ezek 20:34-38 .

“As the rod of Moses was occasionally used as an ensign of the people, so more constantly was the Tabernacle and Ark. The ark is represented as going before the people in their marches ; Numb. x. 33 ; because that, however it was in the middle of the army, yet they had respect to it as their Guide, their Banner, that all whose motions they were to attend ; and when they went through the Jordan into Canaan, the ark was remarkably made use of as the ensign of the people; it was to be carried before them at such a distance that it might be well seen by all the leaders of the people, and they were to take heed to its motions, with the greatest care and exactness, and to follow where that went. Josh. iii. 3, 4. But more especially was the Pillar of cloud and fire, the ensign of that congregation in their marches from Egypt to Canaan.” THE WORKS of PRESIDENT EDWARDS “Notes on the bible” 1830

Jude 1:9 explains that the Archangel Michael took Moses’ body. This assumption is reinforced in the Gospel with Moses’ appearance on the transfiguration mount with Elijah. In connection with this idea, some eschatologists theorize that the witnesses of Revelation 11 shall be Moses and Elijah. The judgments of the witnesses described in this passage match the plagues of Egypt heralded by Moses and those of Elijah, holding rain and causing fire to fall from heaven. Both prophets received their commission while on Mt Sinai, ( Exodus 3:1; 1 Kings 19:7).

The legendary accounts of Jeremiah and the Ark provide a hidden clue to its location at Mount Nebo. This is a symbolic link that exists between the names of and the mountain where it was hidden by Jeremiah. Both Nebuchadnezzar the Babylonian king that threatened to destroy the Ark, and Nebo stem from the Semitic root nebu, meaning the god Mercury. The name Nebuchadnezzar means “the prince of the god Merucury.”20 The Hebrew word nebo is from the root neba (“to prophesy” and also “a prophet”). In the same role as the prophets of the God of Israel, Nebo was worshiped as the celestial scribe of the Assyrians, the “interpreter of the gods, and declarer of their will.”22
According to the Bible, the greatest prophet of all time was Moses, which states, “And there arose not a prophet [neba] since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face.” It is in line with the symbolic meaning of the root Nebu that Mount Nebo was the site of the death of Moses.
Hebrew for prophet comes from the root (nun, beit, alef).
can be pronounced ‘nabu’ or ‘navi’, depending on the use of the second letter (beit). Britannica Encyclopedia
Nave of a church Nave, [Medieval Latin nāvis, from Latin, ship]
Of or pertaining to seamen, to the art of navigation, or to ships; as, nautical skill.

Matt 23:17, John 2:20, 1 Cor 3:16, 1 Cor 3:17, 1 Cor 6:19, 2 Cor 6:16, Rev 11:19, Rev 15:5, Rev 15:8, Rev 21:22
Acts 27:41

now’-tace from – naus 3491; a boatman, i.e. seaman:–sailor, shipman.

Nau”tic*al\, a. [L. nauticus, Gr. naytiko`s, fr. nay`ths a seaman, sailor, fr. nay^s ship: cf. F. nautique.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company

“It is also found in the records, that Jeremiah the prophet… being warned of God, commanded the tabernacle and the ark to go with him, as he went forth into the mountain, where Moses climbed up, and saw the heritage of God.

And Moses went up from the plains of Moab unto the mountain of Nebo, to the top of Pisgah, that [is] over against Jericho.And die in the mount whither thou goest up, and be gathered unto thy people. Deuteronomy 34:1.

“So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.”

This is also the area where Elijah was taken to heaven in a whirlwind (2 Kings 2). In fact, on his journey east toward Mt. Nebo where he was taken into heaven, Elijah parted the Jordan River with his mantel in the same place that the Ark crossed over with Joshua.

And they pitched by Jordan, from Bethjesimoth [even] unto Abelshittim in the plains of Moab. And the LORD spake unto Moses in the plains of Moab by Jordan [near] Jericho, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye are passed over Jordan into the land of Canaan

Elisha, who was following Elijah, returned by the same route to the west and again parted the Jordan with Elijah’s mantel. All these events took place along the line running due east from the Holy of Holies of the temple of Jerusalem.

And the glory of the LORD went up from the midst of the city, and stood upon the mountain which [is] on the east side of the city. Ezekiel 11:23

Afterward he brought me to the gate, [even] the gate that looketh toward the east: And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east:..And the glory of the LORD came into the house by the way of the gate whose prospect [is] toward the east.
Ezekiel 43:4,

Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. Zechariah 14:3,4

In every case this is the same eastern line. It is associated with the Ark in its travel across the Jordan into Israel, Jesus ascension into heaven on the Mount of Olives, Moses and Elijah assumption into heaven… and the location of the Ark to this day.

Was the tomb of Moses where the Ark is? Jeremiah may have known. The location of the hiding place of the Ark was considered unknown in the same manner as with the place of Moses death.

Concerning the Ark:
“As for that place, it shall be unknown until the time that God gather his people again together, and receive them unto mercy. Then shall the Lord show them these things, and the glory of the Lord shall appear, and the cloud also, as it was showed under Moses.”

Concerning Moses:
Now as he [Moses] went thence to the place where he was to vanish out of their sight,[Mt. Nebo]…a cloud stood over him on the sudden, and he disappeared… Josephus Antiquities of the Jews
And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus… And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves. Mark 9
And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them,[the two witnesses] and they stood upon their feet… And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud. Revelation 11:12
… the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds. I Thessalonians 4

The Roman system of measurement was built on the Greek system, and lives on to this day in the form of the Imperial system. The Roman units were accurate and well documented.
The Roman Stadion — (pl. stadia), was 185.2 meters or 607.61 feet. The Greek Stadion also represented 607.61 English feet. Source: Herodotus III. 90-96 and cf. A. R. Burn, Persia & the Greeks (New York, 1962), pp. 123-126.

The modern Nautical mile is exactly 6,076.11549 feet long or “10 x” the ancient stadion.

Using the modern nautical mile to establish distance between the Holy of Holies and the eastern location of the Ark against Mt. Nebo is historically valid because the number of the Sacred Cubit is repeated when the distance in nautical miles is converted to stadia.

25.20 nautical miles equals 153,118.110348 total feet. This number divided by 607.6115 feet of the Greek furlong and Roman stadion equals 252.0 stadia.


There is even mention of the distance (25.20) in the “Testament of Moses”
“The Testament of Moses even the things which he commanded in the one hundred and twentieth year of his life, that is the two thousand five hundredth year from the creation of the world”:

II Maccabees appears in the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible completed in the 1st century BC. Catholic scholars tend toward a dating in the last years of the second century BC, while the consensus among Jewish scholars place it in the second half of the first century BC.

“Oh earth…guard them [the temple vessels and the Ark] until the last times, So that, when thou art ordered, thou mayst restore them, So that strangers may not get possession of them.
For the time comes when Jerusalem also will be delivered for a time, until it is said, that it is again restored for ever.” 2 Baruch 6

“And Jeremiah said: Behold, Lord, now we know that you are delivering the city into the hands of its enemies, and they will take the people away to Babylon. What do you want me to do with the holy vessels of the temple service? And the Lord said to him: Take them and consign them to the earth…Guard the vessels of the temple service until the gathering of the beloved. When he had said these things, the Lord ascended from Jeremiah into heaven. But Jeremiah and Baruch entered the holy place, and taking the
vessels of the temple service, they consigned them to the earth as the Lord had told them.” Paraleipomena Jeremiou 3:8,18

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